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Zipp/Zipp Mini - AirPlay 2

At the World Wide Developer Conference (WWDC) on June 5 this year, Apple announced some great new features in its new operating system – iOS 11.

One part of the iOS 11 update is the new Airplay 2 protocol.

Using the new AirPlay 2, customers can control speakers throughout the house.

Play a song in the living room and the kitchen at the same time, and adjust volume in any room. From an iOS device installed with iOS 11.4 – iOS customers can play music to 2 or more speakers directly.

At Libratone we expect to release new AirPlay 2 enabled speaker firmware for Zipp and Zipp Mini shortly after Apple's launch of a functional AirPlay 2.

 

AIRPLAY 2 SUPPORTED LIBRATONE SPEAKERS 

After a Libratone firmware update - Libratone Zipp and Zipp Mini speakers will support the new AirPlay 2 protocol.

 

LIBRATONE CLASSIC SPEAKERS

Legacy speakers like classic Live/Lounge/Zipp/Loop and Diva will not support AirPlay 2.

Can I play to my classic Libratone speakers through iOS 11.4?

Yes - as long as your playing device support AirPlay, you will be able to play your classic Libratone speakers via AirPlay.

 

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    Peter Svensson

    So have you released this update yet?

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    TSP

    Thanks for asking. I have the same question.

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    Rex Raymond

    I'm also looking forward to the firmware update for the Zipp Mini which will enable AirPlay 2, now that iOS 11.4 has been released!

    Edited by Rex Raymond
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    Nikhil Biyani

    Today, Sonos has released the support for Airplay 2. Eagerly waiting for Libratone to roll out the Airplay 2 support.

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    Rex Raymond

    Just got this response from Libratone Support U.S.:

    "You are looking at about a 2 month wait for the new Airplay 2 update. The speakers will support that feature sometime in September."

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    Lene Strand

    September is over - still no Airplay 2 update?

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    Rex Raymond

    I inquired about the status of the AirPlay 2 update a few weeks ago, and received this response on Sept. 24th from Libratone Support Europe: "We are working hard on the final touches to the Air Play 2 integration for ZIPP and ZIPP MINI to make sure you get the best possible experience. Please keep following."

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    Davood MIHAN

    As a big company you HAVE to have a deadline for your products and services, we are in October and still no AirPlay 2 firmware, that's why SONOS stays a head, I purchased the Zipp speaker only for AirPlay capability but after almost 6 month I'm truly disappointed that why I didn't bought SONOS, if Libratone would offer me the full refund on my Zipp I would LOVE to send it back and buy SONOS, and I would never recommend ANYBODY to buy Libratone products.

    I think they will release the AirPlay 2 firmware with launch of new Zipp 2. [Awful strategy]

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    Paddy

    Update for the Zipp is out.
    Still waiting for my Zipp minis, though...

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    Peter Svensson

    So i just updated the Zipp and asked Siri to play my latest chill list in the kitchen as I named the speaker kitchen. But she responded that there is no speaker with that name. The speaker shows up with the right name in my airplay list though. Am I missing something, have anyone been able to use the speaker in this manner?

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    Paddy

    I think in Order to use Siri you have to set up the speakers in the Apple Home App. I tried it now but can’t get it done because my Apple TV is too old for HomeKit and I don’t have a HomePod. One of the two might be required to act as a bridge for HomeKit

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    Peter Svensson

    Thanks Paddy, I hade the same thought after my comment but couldn’t make I work either. I have atv4k so that should not be the issue.

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    Luap456

    Anyone having issues after the Airplay 2 firmware update? My ZippMini will now only play about 10 seconds before cutting out. Resetting it to factory settings hasn't helped. As of now it's a $249 paper weight.

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    David Sirh

    I’ve tried updating, but it keeps failing to install on my Zipp

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    Rex Raymond

    FYI, the update failed several times for me as well, but once I babysat the download/update process on the iOS app, it finally completed. This means not leaving the app or letting the screen go black or lock.

    Post update, my Zipp Mini is working beautifully as an AirPlay 2 destination!

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    Nicholas Laslett

    I am having the same issue as Luap456. Airplay from Mac plays for 10secs then cuts out.

    Plays fine from iPhone. Plays fine from my other Mac.

    I cannot get either of my Macs to plays to the Zipp and another Airplay speaker at the same time.

    I wish I’d not done the update because it all worked fine before.

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    Ian Henderson

    I'm also having the same problem as Luap456 & Nicholas Laslett

    Zipp Mini cuts out after a few seconds from iTunes on my Windows PC over Airplay. But the speaker plays both internet radio (over wi-fi) and Apple Music from my phone (over Bluetooth) with no problem.

    The problems appeared immediately after installing the latest firmware.

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    Luap456

    Just an update to the issue of my Zipp Mini cutting out after 10 seconds: I received an email from Libratone customer support that the engineers in Denmark are aware of the issue and are working on a new update.

    In the meantime, what I've discovered is that making sure all of the speakers I'm using are updated to Airplay 2 seems to have fixed the issue for me. I had an old Apple TV 3 hooked up to a receiver and speakers and since the Apple TV 3 can't update to Airplay 2, I had a mix of Airplay and Airplay 2 speakers all playing from iTunes on my Mac. Once I switched out the Apple TV 3 for an old Airport Express updated to the new firmware that supports Airplay 2 I haven't had any problems with my Zipp Mini.

    Airplay 2 does seem to break the equalizer in iTunes however which is something else to consider. Apparently Apple thinks everyone is using a Homepod as their speaker and that the Homepods have such great sound nobody should need to use the equalizer anymore. My work around for that was to purchase Airfoil. Shouldn't be necessary but at least now I have control over how my music sounds again.

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    Nicholas Laslett

    Luap456, thank you for your detailed update.

    I still have two Airplay1 speakers that will never get an update. B&O and B&W.

    I hope I will still be able to play them and the Zipp at the same time from my Mac.

    Basically updating the Zipp to Airplay2 has messed up my current setup for little benefit. My Mac has always been the jukebox, so playing to more than one target was never an issue.

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    Guskovago

    I concurr with Luap456. I disconnected every device on the network that was not Airplay 2 compatible. Seems to have done the trick for now. Both my Libratone Zipps are working. I tried adding back on one by one the non Airplay 2 devices and it kicked out the Libratones. I only have Airport Expresses, one Apple TV 4 and the Libratones working with all speakers connected playing music. It seems the new Airplay 2 protocol must interfere with the older Airplay devices. Until Libratone updates this firmware, this workaround will have to do for me. My multiple devices all worked fine before I updated the Libratones to Airplay 2. Hope this helps someone else save endless hours of frustration.

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    James Nash

    I've done the firmware update and have the latest app on my Android phone and newest iTunes version (on Windows). While I can see and stream to each of my two Zipp 1 speakers individually I can no longer group them together in Airplay 2. iTunes will not see them as a linked pair.  If I ungroup they show up and work well but if I link them in the Libratone to play as a stereo pair (as I have been doing for months) they grey out and disappear.

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    Paddy

    I successfully added my speakers to HomeKit, partially thanks to Libratone support.
    Here is how it worked for me:

    1. On your Zipp, keep the bird icon pressed to bring it into pairing mode.

    2. Go to the Home App, press ‘Add Accesory’ - ‘Don’t have a Code or can’t scan?’

    3. On the following screen you should see your speaker appear. Please take note, that sometimes it appeared with an orange house symbol, sometimes with a grey speaker symbol, sometimes both (I had to do this multiple times to get it to work). You’ll want to tap the one with the grey speaker symbol and allow WiFi-access. If you tap the icon with the house it will again ask to scan or enter access code, which I (assuming we) don’t have.

    4. Set up your speaker in HomeKit with Siri and everything that’s fancy.

    Troubleshooting:
    At the first 20 tries my phone (iPhone X iOS 12.0.1) would show the speakers in setup, but the connection to HomeKit would fail. For me it was fixed by restarting my phone.

    Good luck and have fun!

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    Detlef Beer

    Has anybody tried after the firmware update to configure two Airplay 2 ZIPPs as stereo pair in Homekit as it is possible for Homepods?

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    James Nash

    Yes Detlef, I have experienced the same problem, and informed by Libretone C's that Soundscape and Apple Airplay is no longer possible. Doesn't that tick you off like it does me?

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    James Nash

    Yes Detlef, I have experienced the same problem, and informed by Libretone C's that Soundscape and Apple Airplay is no longer possible. Doesn't that tick you off like it does me?

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    Detlef Beer

    That‘s it James, in fact with the new update for Zipp and Zipp Mini Airplay 2 is mono only . Before the Update Soundsspace via Airplay 1 worked fine in stereo. Now stereo works over Bluetooth only, if a WLAN is available for the connection from the Zipp connected via Bluetooth and the second Zipp. To be clear this is from a Libratone support answer to a friend of mine. Because that I have not updated my Zipps. By the way a downgrade isn‘t possible :-(

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    Irena H

    Argh--I just spent hours trying to figure out why I can't send to a stereo pair anymore over Wifi. Libratone: +1 vote for the option to downgrade, or a new way to configure each speaker to receive/play only one side of the stereo signal. Being able to stream to two Zipps configured in stereo over Wifi is why I bought your products in the first place.

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    James Nash

    Now I cannot play even one Zipp 1 speaker via AIrplay without constant dropouts.

    LIbratone, you really dropped the ball on this! Fix your mess!

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    Blake McCoach

    Yes this is very disappointing. The whole reason I went with Libratone was to always stay current on firmware AND to link these expensive speakers to listen in beautiful separated stereo. Now the linked Zipp1 speakers do not show up on any device. I need to unlink them to have them show up, but then they are mono. Very bad Libratone! No longer recommending these speakers...pretty sad.

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    Flumsel

    Still no Update. Speaker is electronic trash now. I want to downgrade or a valid update. i bought the speaker because airplay2-support was announced. Now nothing works.
    :-(